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w. shortly after the decision is announced, we will open the phone lines to get your reaction. that will be live on c-span. also, you can hear the oral arguments in the health care law from the end of march. it's available at our website, c-span.org. at an event on friday with a better ginsburg gave no hints about which way the court has decided in the deliberations over cases related to the health care law. she said those who know don't talk and those who don't know talk. she indicated many of the court's decisions over the next two weeks might be close, including an indecency ruling for the fcc and an arizona immigration law. this is about 40 minutes. >> bank. i know you are excited about what is to come. i'm excited about this packed room. -- thanks. we know the place to be on friday night in d.c. [applause] i have a fabulous job. i and other special privilege, which iif i get to introduce peter rubin, who many of us consider to be the father of acs, feeling a little sibling rivalry,
w. shortly after the decision is announced, we will open the phone lines to get your reaction. that will be live on c-span. also, you can hear the oral arguments in the health care law from the end of march. it's available at our website, c-span.org. at an event on friday with a better ginsburg gave no hints about which way the court has decided in the deliberations over cases related to the health care law. she said those who know don't talk and those who don't know talk. she indicated many of...
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kennedy, george h. w. bush, and john kerry, to name a few. what is it about this school of 1500 students that provides such a draw for our nation's most prominent political leaders? it is certainly not our rolling mountains or white sand beaches. [laughter] no, time and again we have the opportunity to host these events, and it speaks to something deeper. lawrence university is a place where education and civil discourse are of paramount importance. whether we agree with a candidate's views it or not, we will be ready to engage in honest and respectful discussion. our liberal arts education has taught us that in order to learn, we must ask questions and listen. today is not the first time, and likely will not be the last that a candidate or leader will choose lawrence as a place to discuss matters of great importance. it is nonetheless a tremendous honor to welcome the governor to our institution. i would like to invite our next speaker to the podium. a wisconsin native serving in his seventh congressional term, representing the first distric
kennedy, george h. w. bush, and john kerry, to name a few. what is it about this school of 1500 students that provides such a draw for our nation's most prominent political leaders? it is certainly not our rolling mountains or white sand beaches. [laughter] no, time and again we have the opportunity to host these events, and it speaks to something deeper. lawrence university is a place where education and civil discourse are of paramount importance. whether we agree with a candidate's views it...
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i do not know what you can do when every possible effort has been made by george w. bush. there is no way you can tell how you can be sure in any case. it is one of those things that some people's views you think are rock-solid when they come to the on the ropes of the supreme court, somehow something happens that is almost indecipherable. as i watched the parade of change -- i will not say total change -- there has been partial change in these tough cases. one factor is that when they do change and to what the president who appointed them has not expected, they will all be applauded by "the new york times." >> chair of the public policy group. i urge people to read this. i have an associate who was reading the dayton phone book. i am still working my way through it. [laughter] i mentioned reading is because there are some words that release support what karen and the attorney general says. they come from justice roberts. the way i look at this decision is justice roberts wanted the tax power rather than the commerce power because it provides people who might oppose this l
i do not know what you can do when every possible effort has been made by george w. bush. there is no way you can tell how you can be sure in any case. it is one of those things that some people's views you think are rock-solid when they come to the on the ropes of the supreme court, somehow something happens that is almost indecipherable. as i watched the parade of change -- i will not say total change -- there has been partial change in these tough cases. one factor is that when they do...
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george w. bush took 8.7 months. in recent president has had more than 25 appointees on board by april 1. you can see that the percentage of people has been going down regularly. and remember, this is a total of 800 people. no president has had more than 240 people on board by the august recess. a good portion of the top appointees are not in office. this is a problem. why the steady slowdown? volume is the biggest reason. financial disclosure, conflict of interest, fbi investigations, centralized control in the white house slows things down. it used to be delegated more to cabinet secretaries, but since 1980, it has been centralized in the white house because the white house has a stake in this and they want to control it. senate confirmation creates additional delays. senate committees often deal with the volume, so there will be hearings, grandstanding, and they want to make it difficult for the president of the opposite party, and then there are holes, a threat to filibuster. the senate can vote unless you can ge
george w. bush took 8.7 months. in recent president has had more than 25 appointees on board by april 1. you can see that the percentage of people has been going down regularly. and remember, this is a total of 800 people. no president has had more than 240 people on board by the august recess. a good portion of the top appointees are not in office. this is a problem. why the steady slowdown? volume is the biggest reason. financial disclosure, conflict of interest, fbi investigations,...
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w. ♪ i see them. they are right in front of the bus, waving. let's give our best welcome to our comeback team, mitt romney, ann romney, and congressman paul ryan. ♪ >> thank you, everybody. what a welcome. this is great. look how far back this goes. >> romney! romney! >> sisters, how are you doing? good to see you. thank you, everybody. thank you so much for coming out. thank you for standing in line, and thank you so much for what you are about to do. you are going to let this man be the next president of the united states. it is great to be back home in big ten country. i represent the west part of the western shoreline of lake michigan. you've got the sand, and we have a rocks. we all come from the same place. i want to tell you something. we got a big decision to make. we are going to be deciding the kind of country we want to be, the kind of country we are going to have, not just for the next four years, but for a generation. president obama has put our nation on a path to debt,
w. ♪ i see them. they are right in front of the bus, waving. let's give our best welcome to our comeback team, mitt romney, ann romney, and congressman paul ryan. ♪ >> thank you, everybody. what a welcome. this is great. look how far back this goes. >> romney! romney! >> sisters, how are you doing? good to see you. thank you, everybody. thank you so much for coming out. thank you for standing in line, and thank you so much for what you are about to do. you are going to let...
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tommy thompson, after he left wisconsin, went off to serve in the george w. bush's cabinet. but one of the reasons i think his campaign has so much money, and you see so much outside spending is that he cut this deal on a medicare part d where he made it so that the government cannot negotiate with the prescription drug companies were lower drug prices. i think this is the ultimate payback for tommy, giving such a great giveaway to the prescription drug companies. tommy thompson is not the same guy that people remember from his heyday in 1980's. that may be what is special interest friends are spending money as a reward for tommy for making himself so much wealthier. host: nate, missouri, go ahead. caller: romney is a businessman. whenever he says, he is born to come to the president's way of thinking. you saw that in the last debate. we set up here and talk about, well, about the president and he doesn't have any idea. the president knows that whatever he is going to do, romney is going to copy it. republicans do half as good as they do, especially in a lot for college, is
tommy thompson, after he left wisconsin, went off to serve in the george w. bush's cabinet. but one of the reasons i think his campaign has so much money, and you see so much outside spending is that he cut this deal on a medicare part d where he made it so that the government cannot negotiate with the prescription drug companies were lower drug prices. i think this is the ultimate payback for tommy, giving such a great giveaway to the prescription drug companies. tommy thompson is not the same...
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even from the clinton administration to george w. bush administration, very little difference. and then again from the george w. bush to the obama administration, very little difference between the last budget request and the first budget crest of the new administration -- the first budget request of the new administration. the new administration, they have to hurry and get that budget request out quickly in the first month. they do not have time to make a whole lot of changes to it. the best they can do is make tweaks. if there is a change in administration, did not expect the next fydp will show a huge change. the large change ec from a shift in administration is typically in the second request. that is also shown on this chart. sequestration, the thing that everyone is interested in, i will walk you through the mechanics of sequestration. how you determine the amount in dollars, how you determine the percentage, and then go through emmet and outlays -- and then go through and look at our place. figuring out the dollar amount of the cut. $546 billion for a total national defe
even from the clinton administration to george w. bush administration, very little difference. and then again from the george w. bush to the obama administration, very little difference between the last budget request and the first budget crest of the new administration -- the first budget request of the new administration. the new administration, they have to hurry and get that budget request out quickly in the first month. they do not have time to make a whole lot of changes to it. the best...
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w. we need to get america back to work. and this body right here, we don't recreate the jobs, but we could create an environment in which job creation is right. and we have done a lot here in the house. we have passed over 30 bills that are sitting in the senate awaiting action. we are going to highlight what we have learned. and i would just say to you, mr. gardner, i'm sure you can say the same about what you learned over the district work period traveling from county to county in alabama's second district, the debt has stifled job creation because it has created uncertainty. all of the regulation and red tape that has been passed in the previous congress that this congress has been unable to do because of the lack of action in the senate, all of that has contributed, obamacare has contributed to moran more uncertainty. i have traveled around and folks can't take anymore. their businesses are on the line. and that is a reflection of what's going to happen in their households. mr. gardn
w. we need to get america back to work. and this body right here, we don't recreate the jobs, but we could create an environment in which job creation is right. and we have done a lot here in the house. we have passed over 30 bills that are sitting in the senate awaiting action. we are going to highlight what we have learned. and i would just say to you, mr. gardner, i'm sure you can say the same about what you learned over the district work period traveling from county to county in alabama's...
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. >> we did not go through the decade of george w. bush and the last four years of rock obama, but what they have had to deal with, in fairness, is 9/11, a couple of wars that require a lot of spending, the tax cuts of george bush -- i am not sure where you stood on those, but they did eat into the amount of money we had to spend -- and then the recession, which was some say close to a depression. did that time prevent us from being able to make deficits and debt a top priority? >> it should not have. it could have, but it should not have come out if people were thinking clearly, if they were well educated, if they even understood this whole damn thing, which they do not. if you say what percentage of the american people understand this, i would say it is a very low number. it to be everybody, and everybody should say this is my country. people should be very active about not letting anything damaged our country. the one thing we have not mentioned at all, there is no question at all in my mind, if we keep going this way, some nation
. >> we did not go through the decade of george w. bush and the last four years of rock obama, but what they have had to deal with, in fairness, is 9/11, a couple of wars that require a lot of spending, the tax cuts of george bush -- i am not sure where you stood on those, but they did eat into the amount of money we had to spend -- and then the recession, which was some say close to a depression. did that time prevent us from being able to make deficits and debt a top priority? >>...
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arnold also played golf with president george -- gerald ford, george w. bush, and bill clinton. arnold even appeared on "the ed sullivan show." and on a personal note, i have an opportunity to play golf with arnie along with my son, joe baca, jr., and we had an opportunity to walk backwards and play, and let me tell you, walking that course and playing with him, it was about a human being, a person who demonstrated caring about individuals. it did not matter where you came from. it was the fact that he treated you like a human being and we were all special to him. let me tell you. arnold is a genuine person with a great sense of humor. he is a considerate man with compassion in his heart for others. although he does not feel comfortable being called the king of golf, he truly is the king of golf. arnold palmer is royalty, royalty in the eyes and hearts of those he has helped. we thank you, arnold palmer, for all that you have done in making better andes a lot being that role model and serving our nation. you are a true american who deserves to be honored with the congressional g
arnold also played golf with president george -- gerald ford, george w. bush, and bill clinton. arnold even appeared on "the ed sullivan show." and on a personal note, i have an opportunity to play golf with arnie along with my son, joe baca, jr., and we had an opportunity to walk backwards and play, and let me tell you, walking that course and playing with him, it was about a human being, a person who demonstrated caring about individuals. it did not matter where you came from. it...
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george w. bush won reelection in 2004 with ohio's electoral votes. president obama carried it with 52% of the vote. what we will look at is hamilton county, carrying hamilton county which is unusual for the democrat to do. it is that key critical county. republicans are confident this year. the romney campaign have determined that the numbers, he is outperforming john mccain by a wide margin. >> only lyndon johnson and george mcgovern who outperformed in ohio compared to where they performed nationally. >> the demographics here, the mix of rural and urban, white, black, male, female. i think that is why it turns out to be such a good bellwether and a barometer of where the country is at. we still have the largest chunk of the electoral votes. >> a quick follow up on that point, pennsylvania, michigan. even if you head south the west virginia, that border of ohio. what makes this so different? it seems to be solid democratic states, west virginia and is likely solid for the republicans. >> we have a mix, parts of the state that are wide like west virg
george w. bush won reelection in 2004 with ohio's electoral votes. president obama carried it with 52% of the vote. what we will look at is hamilton county, carrying hamilton county which is unusual for the democrat to do. it is that key critical county. republicans are confident this year. the romney campaign have determined that the numbers, he is outperforming john mccain by a wide margin. >> only lyndon johnson and george mcgovern who outperformed in ohio compared to where they...
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appointee, benjamin bernanke, george w. bush's chief economic advisor, chairman of the federal reserve, chairman bernanke has pushed hard to have the federal reserve be a constructive force in our economy. people on the right in particular were saying it's going to cause terrible inflation. rarely in american history has a flat prediction been more wrong. the quantitative easing, the innovation of the fed has produced no inflation. it has made money for the federal government. it hasn't cost us anything. it has been very helpful. . the fed has been setting a good example for europe. one of the best things that happened by europe lately is that people see the central bank was beginning to take some of the lessons from the u.s. federal reserve and work more like them. so if we stop trying to harass the federal reserve from the reasonable policies it's been following, if we stop forcing state and local governments to fire people who perform useful services and unfortunately added to the unemployment figures, if we would produc
appointee, benjamin bernanke, george w. bush's chief economic advisor, chairman of the federal reserve, chairman bernanke has pushed hard to have the federal reserve be a constructive force in our economy. people on the right in particular were saying it's going to cause terrible inflation. rarely in american history has a flat prediction been more wrong. the quantitative easing, the innovation of the fed has produced no inflation. it has made money for the federal government. it hasn't cost us...
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after 9/11, george w. bush's job approval jumped up to 90%, symbolizing the rallying affect run the country. we are monitoring obama's job approval rating extremely carefully. it has been operating in that range. typically, to be reelected, based on our limited history since world war ii, an incumbent needs to have 40% or 50% or higher, so he is under the zone where he would typically be reelected. he is close. the one thing we really want to monitor for obama's job approval rating is -- can he in the summer and into the fall get it up to 47%, 40%, and even 50%? if so, i would say his chances of reelection are good, but if it stays where it is or goes lower, he could be in the same vote that george h. w. bush was in in 1992 and jimmy carter. both were denied their second term. host: we are putting on screen when you drill down and look at president job approval ratings. democrats at 81%. and it endeds -- independents, 42 percent said. republicans 10%. >> obviously, democrats will high percentage say yes, t
after 9/11, george w. bush's job approval jumped up to 90%, symbolizing the rallying affect run the country. we are monitoring obama's job approval rating extremely carefully. it has been operating in that range. typically, to be reelected, based on our limited history since world war ii, an incumbent needs to have 40% or 50% or higher, so he is under the zone where he would typically be reelected. he is close. the one thing we really want to monitor for obama's job approval rating is -- can he...
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it's george w. bush's fault. it's big oil's fault. it's the coal company's fault. it's the gas company's fault. it's the fault of the republicans in congress. it's anybody's fault but mine. that's what he's saying to us and he says please give me another four years,, i'll figure it out. you know what, mr. president, we're tired of waiting for you to figure it out. i feel bad for the ment, i really dofment see he doesn't know anything about leading. he's never led anything in his life until we made him president of the united states, he never led anything. i don't want to be disrespectful to any legitimate chures but that doesn't make you a leader. you put something to the committee and made him a united states senator and he barely showed up to take the oath and started running for president of the united states which and he spent the next two years running for president. he was a state legislature. he never ran anything in his life so the president doesn't know how to lead. watch what he's been like for the past four years. he's like a man wandering narned a dark
it's george w. bush's fault. it's big oil's fault. it's the coal company's fault. it's the gas company's fault. it's the fault of the republicans in congress. it's anybody's fault but mine. that's what he's saying to us and he says please give me another four years,, i'll figure it out. you know what, mr. president, we're tired of waiting for you to figure it out. i feel bad for the ment, i really dofment see he doesn't know anything about leading. he's never led anything in his life until we...
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w. i just want to actually -- the point is to keep the focus on the president. so there is a tactical reason for not answering the question, too. if he had a good answer for why he has special insight into what needs to be done in the economy at the moment, he wants the conversation to stay on an up or down vote on the president's stewardship and the economy. >> my defense of romney in this is, i don't think he can make a credible defense of this where he actually uses his work at bain to say my work at bain is exactly what the president of the united states does and therefore you should elect me because what i did at bain is analagous is the same. what he did is not. his job was to make a ton of money for investors and himself. by all accounts he appears to have been very good at it. in ways sometimes benefited workers and sometimes hurt workers. >> and always benefited bain. >> which was his constituency. the point i would make if i were sort of arguing for mitt romney, here's a guy wh
w. i just want to actually -- the point is to keep the focus on the president. so there is a tactical reason for not answering the question, too. if he had a good answer for why he has special insight into what needs to be done in the economy at the moment, he wants the conversation to stay on an up or down vote on the president's stewardship and the economy. >> my defense of romney in this is, i don't think he can make a credible defense of this where he actually uses his work at bain to...
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. $25 trillion tax cuts would make president george w. bush look like a banker. he must have been asleep at the switch. you said like jerry mcguire "show me the money." you are the business guy. see me back after the election. who can take you seriously? here is my budget although it is not. see me about it after the election. the reason is there are only three options. if you want to repeal tax exemptions you have to cut the tax exemptions on the middle- class and governor romney says he will raise those taxes. or you can do what they have always done in just let the deficit explode again. when the economy goes it'll be a problem. or you could just gut the federal budget. gut funding for education. gut the student loan program. i spent $3 billion of your money to separate the human genome. he know how much economic activity it has generated? $790 billion. barack obama wants to raise it. they want to cut its. one thing they have not disavowed is they intend to cut medicaid by 33% over 10 years and get back to the state of ohio. medicaid provides medical coverage
. $25 trillion tax cuts would make president george w. bush look like a banker. he must have been asleep at the switch. you said like jerry mcguire "show me the money." you are the business guy. see me back after the election. who can take you seriously? here is my budget although it is not. see me about it after the election. the reason is there are only three options. if you want to repeal tax exemptions you have to cut the tax exemptions on the middle- class and governor romney...
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george w. bush was on a different pathway than the one that 9/11 took him down. he had to be in the middle of the battle against terrorism, against the people who would destroy our way of life. i think he meant to have a different kind of administration. he was very high priority in what would happen in our schools and the role of federal government. suddenly a radical shift, the effect that 9/11 had was the most dramatic experience that i will ever have in public affairs. >> what is the changes in this institution as a result of that? thee're living around capital. you spent time walking in the place today that was because there is security at every corner. necessarily so, it would appear, but my goodness it is hard to imagine that america is better off with all these limitations and regulations we must deal with. >> do you think it has gone too far? >> i think it has gone much too far. the invasion of privacy, little ladies walking through airports are the problem, a bit of excess to me. we have to be careful about that. it still remains a high priority. >> tot
george w. bush was on a different pathway than the one that 9/11 took him down. he had to be in the middle of the battle against terrorism, against the people who would destroy our way of life. i think he meant to have a different kind of administration. he was very high priority in what would happen in our schools and the role of federal government. suddenly a radical shift, the effect that 9/11 had was the most dramatic experience that i will ever have in public affairs. >> what is the...
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the 15 years later, ronald reagan and george w. bush stood on this stage. jump forward 17 years to 1998, my colleague and friend hillary clinton was the commencement speaker and first lady at the time. she said it was impossible for anyone to come to this campus and not feel the richness of their tradition and the reverence for those that pave the way for tomorrow's leaders. i stand today in the shadows of giants and i am fully aware that howard has been the crucible for social actions and the proving ground for american justice. i am humbled to be sharing a stage with a distinguished group of honor recipients. they are all groundbreakers in their professions. they are passionate believers and equal opportunity, the power of a great education. and howard alumnus that had a storied career with the new york times as the first black woman to win the pulitzer prize. [applause] the warmth of other sons, her epic history of the black migration is simply without parallel. that is my impressive company. i want to say, do not let it go to your heads. previous recipi
the 15 years later, ronald reagan and george w. bush stood on this stage. jump forward 17 years to 1998, my colleague and friend hillary clinton was the commencement speaker and first lady at the time. she said it was impossible for anyone to come to this campus and not feel the richness of their tradition and the reverence for those that pave the way for tomorrow's leaders. i stand today in the shadows of giants and i am fully aware that howard has been the crucible for social actions and the...
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president george h. w. bush signed the law that put in place a cap-and-trade program that told private enterprise, you figure out how to reduce the sulfur emissions causing acid rain. they're killing this forests and the streams in the northeast and canada. he said, we cannot allow that. you have all the market incentives. the industry said, we will go bankrupt. but they did at less than a fraction of the price they said it would cost, and were successful. >> thank you, mr. chairman. this has been an interesting conversation. we have talked about tax deductions and subsidies a little bit. one program that i have become aware of in my last 16 months being in this office and visiting a number of the industries in my district, does better in the food production area have made me aware -- those that are in the food production area has made me aware of market allotments. in the sugar program, market allotment to certain producers based on their history and their expected productions. this has made it difficult f
president george h. w. bush signed the law that put in place a cap-and-trade program that told private enterprise, you figure out how to reduce the sulfur emissions causing acid rain. they're killing this forests and the streams in the northeast and canada. he said, we cannot allow that. you have all the market incentives. the industry said, we will go bankrupt. but they did at less than a fraction of the price they said it would cost, and were successful. >> thank you, mr. chairman. this...
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, george w. bush, calling for reform of fannie and freddie and i seem to recall my friend from massachusetts who resisted such reform. fact, there were people here on the democratic side of the aisle thatesisted such reform. they prevented such reform. there were members on the republican side -- not all of them -- but there were members who were calling for reform of fannie maend freddie mac. but it didn't happen. and in fact our friends across the aisle were in control of the house and senate fr four years. in 2005 and 2006 as a freshman, i often heard our colleagues across the aisle asking how we could do such a terrible, terrible thing of spending $100 billion to200 billion more than we had coming in. little did we know -- and they were right. they were right. we should not have been spending $160 billion more than we had coming in. the democrats were right. and because republicans did not stay true to what we were promised, our leadership just wouldn't dig in and stop it even though we had a
, george w. bush, calling for reform of fannie and freddie and i seem to recall my friend from massachusetts who resisted such reform. fact, there were people here on the democratic side of the aisle thatesisted such reform. they prevented such reform. there were members on the republican side -- not all of them -- but there were members who were calling for reform of fannie maend freddie mac. but it didn't happen. and in fact our friends across the aisle were in control of the house and senate...
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former president george its w. bush said he epitomized the service, country, creed the has defended the freedom. leon panetta described the army general as one of the great military giants of the 20th century. next an interview with the general on his autobiography, it does not take a hero. >> almost every general had fought in vietnam. we all remembered feeling abandoned by our country. you had to dip towards. how much did that impact the rest of your career? >> it was probably more impact than any other experience a had in my eighth military career. >> you line just as much by seeing things done wrong and sometimes more, you sit there will never do it that way, and i will never do it differently. i can but the seventh time and agonized. the only way a king to an answer to myself was yes, i will stick, but only under these circumstances of in doing it this way. that was a result of vietnam. >> you were there twice. >> i spent five and as a bold months and from there seven months. the cards go back to your first tr
former president george its w. bush said he epitomized the service, country, creed the has defended the freedom. leon panetta described the army general as one of the great military giants of the 20th century. next an interview with the general on his autobiography, it does not take a hero. >> almost every general had fought in vietnam. we all remembered feeling abandoned by our country. you had to dip towards. how much did that impact the rest of your career? >> it was probably...
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w. a similar and far larger decision we must also get right is defense spending. the asia-pacific region is primarily a maritime theater. our ability to project military power depends mostly on the u.s. navy. the navy is still short of its own goal of 313 ships. the administration now proposes to retire seven cruisers earlier than planned to phase out ships needed by the marine corps and one virgina class attack submarine, two literal combat ships, and navy vessels. we are retiring ships faster than we are replacing them. without a plan to compensate for them only put our goals in the asia-pacific region at greater risk. all of this is before the potential impact of sequestration. the cuts to defense budget required under sequestration require nothing less than a unilateral act of disarmament that would insure the real decline of u.s. military power. a number of us in congress have offered proposals to avoid sequestration, but we do not have a monopoly on good ideas. we want to sit down
w. a similar and far larger decision we must also get right is defense spending. the asia-pacific region is primarily a maritime theater. our ability to project military power depends mostly on the u.s. navy. the navy is still short of its own goal of 313 ships. the administration now proposes to retire seven cruisers earlier than planned to phase out ships needed by the marine corps and one virgina class attack submarine, two literal combat ships, and navy vessels. we are retiring ships faster...